Today, as all the normal working Brooklynites were heading to work I saw Colby the bearded, stretched earlobe, 1908 paperboy hat-wearing, Gowanus Canal tour guide enjoying a cage-free Bushwick hard-boiled egg; a locally peeled orange, and a hand-crafted bottle of artisanal water for breakfast on his gentrification stoop. So I decapitated him by flinging a sewer cap like a frisbee right into his Sharpie Marker neck. End of story.
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Surprising to see the number of graphic designers here given that most posters champion “old school” blue collar Brooklyn over artsy white collar newcomers. Instead of bitching about how poorly graphic designers get paid and blaming it on hipsters y’all should either get better at your job so people will pay your rates, or find a new job that actually entails work.
Clearly you’re not understanding the issue or how the graphic design field works, especially for freelancers. For every one hipster f*ck who labels him/herself as a designer, there are 10 honest, hard-working, legitimately professional career designers.
Design starts with client interaction and ends with delivering the client a quality product under budget and within deadlines. The layout doesn’t have to be artsy, it just has to WORK for what the customer wants and needs. Any good designer will know this. Design is a real profession where customer experience and marketing/business sense is necessary, aside from knowing production specifications for print and web, in addition to layout and color theory. It isn’t about sitting behind a Macbook at Starbucks laying out a flyer for your band’s next show.
The problem is, these hipster a$$holes have been permeating our field and bringing down the quality as well as the reputation of the type of work we do, because, put simply, THEY are the ones who suck. They give the rest of us a terrible reputation with potential clients because they have caused horrible design process experiences for clients, and now those same employers are more hesitant to hire legitimate designers or pay the market value for our work than in the past. And also, graphic design is NOT about creating some lame artsy-fartsy poster for some artisinal coffee shop as these hipster scum would have you think.
Amen, DHS.
About 15 years ago i had a solid wood entertainment center custom built by gentleman who taught fine woodworking at Bucks County Community college. He agreed to do the job but was hesitant on giving me a price. After two weeks of begging he finally gave me a quote. It was pricey but fair, considering the materials, complexity of the piece and labor.
When asked why he dragged his feet on quoting me a price, he said that for the past several years he gets people who see his work at shows and then visit his shop but are put off by the price. The standard consultation would be this: a woman coming in with a photo of say – a chippendale table out of a JC Penney catalog. She would ask the guy how much it would cost to make said table. When he quoted 6000 bucks, she would scream, “WHAT!?! I CAN GET THE SAME THING AT PENNEY’S FOR $699!! The poor guy would explain about the cost of figured wood, carving, upolstery, etc. No dice….BUT THIS ONE IS $699!
Trying to reason with people like this is frustrating and a waste of time. This is why good experienced designers have a rough time. At one time anyone who had to deal with photographers and graphic designers had to know what “GOOD” was. Initially, tryhards were laughed out of every design firm from NY to LA. But then the field got swamped, more and more people compromised for the sake of price. As a result for a number of years the perception of what “GOOD” is, has eroded to the point that my nine year old could get a work as a graphic designer. Before you saw unique graphics, fonts and style in ads and catalogs.
Now style and taste have become homogeonous.
Although I’m a machine designer I do, on occasion have some input when it comes to hiring a graphic designer for things like brochures, tecnical manuals, etc.
95% of the people that get the work are worthless hipsters. And it’s all because of price. Great designers that can command a much higher wage were not even considered. Yet after dealing with the Jack Kerouac Liberation Brigadefor years it finally became clear to marketing that after not getting what we want, numerous reworks, errors, sloppiness, laziness and a downright lack of skill and incompetence it cost three times more to hire the bearded ironic duo than to pay a much higher wage to someone who could do the job.
Now it’s a breeze. They send something out – get a quote, one or two e-mail exchanges, approval and the stuff shows up ready to print on time and within budget. It’s a beautiful thing.
I started out as a draftsman. Traditionally, draftsmen also did technical illustration, a painstaking and time consuming task. But it was assumed that although you were hired as a machine designer you could also work with pantone, letraset, do masking and deal with printers (many were excellent graphic designers as well). it was part of the job. So when I run into a ski-capped d**che there’s always a good amount of butthurt because guys my age had developed – although not graphic designers – knew what GOOD was.
Recently, my spouse needed some graphic work done. She got some twenty something weasel who was the son of a friend of her boss. Bottom line – he had three weeks to do a 2 hour job. Many unreturned phone calls and excuses (usually having to do with DJ-ing or his “band”) later it was now zero hour and no work. Wifey was freaking out. I ask to see what needed to be done.
I did the entire job by hand – with a copy machine, xacto knife and white out – in one hour and had copies from Kinko’s that afternoon.
Sorry for the long post.
No apology needed. A worthwhile read. So true, so few, thank you.
Thank you Pat… that was a great read. Wow. Good to know other craftsmen/women out there appreciate true hard work and craftsmanship across multiple disciplines, as it should be, since we’re all artists and professionals, despite our field
My dad also started out as a draftsman. I remember him busting his hump taking night courses at the local college until he also became a machine designer. He ended up working at Lever Brothers for many years designing packaging equipment. The biggest gift he gave
me was the incentive to study the hard sciences instead of that faggot liberal arts crap.
The mileage I’ve gotten out of a two year AAS degree in electronic technology has been amazing. I’ve been working since the day I graduated. And no student debt, it was crazy cheap back then and I paid for it as I went along by working as an Avis car rental night clerk.
I’m not hipster, and liberal arts is necessary. Shut your whore mouth.
Yes, the world needs more liberal arts majors because there’s always a latte to be steamed or a table that needs cleaning.
Part of the economic mess we’re in is because we let other countries take over the lead in hard sciences.
And the other part is because hordes of idiots took out $100,000+ student loans to do useless degrees with no useful skill at the end of them.
Ever hear the saying “Clogs to clogs in three generations”?
Have you ever seen the Monty Python skit where Manchester United plays the world’s greatest philsophers? The referee drops the ball, manchester goes after it while the philosphers walk around rubbing their chins and contemplating their navels.
This is liberal arts in a nutshell.
I’m not uneducated nor am I uncultured. The same goes for the overwhelming majority of the folks who post to this site. They’re capable of discussing almost any subject taught in a liberal arts curriculum – and then some.
What you don’t seem to understand is this:
We like liberal arts. We enjoy books, museums, films, art, etc.
But we don’t NEED liberal arts.
Now I’m not implying that the human race shouldn’t know how to read and write or tell the difference between a Picasso and a Kandinsky. it’s just that knowing this is low on the priority list of those who contribute to society in a meaningful way.
For example, I love the Diane Arbus. To me she’s one of this country’s greatest photographers. I love my plumber as well. he’s a craftsman and meticulous to a fault.
But when I have a river of piss and crap running down my newly refinished steps due to a broken toilet, I’m not going to look to my photography collection for a solution. I’m going to call my plumber.
What you experience here is not a hatred
of liberal arts but an enormous amount of anger, hatred and mockery of people who have ruined our great neighborhoods. They have contributed one iota to making this city a better place. They’re adult toddlers – no different than trying to get a small child to put down his crayons and put away his toys.
This country – hell western civilization – was built with the hands of skilled laborers and artisans – including those parentally subsidized factories and brownstownes that these ski-capped bearded zygotes live in.
You see, the problem is – liberal arts majors – at least today are nothing but a bunch of pampered brats who do little more than play all day. They think the knowledge they hold
makes them better than everyone else and since they are superior the rules do not apply to them. They hold people like me in contempt because I work at a job that requires a lot of skill and technical knowledge – the kind of skills society puts a high value on – instead of waking up at 2PM and playing with my legos at the local cafe.
Liberal arts – the way it’s treated now is the reason why we cannot deal with real problems like employment. You would think at someone at some point one of these twizzlers might say – hey, it’s been four years and this cruelty free puppeterring thing isn’t panning out. maybe I should take the civil service test. Or – “Jeez there are six vegan cupcake smoothie shops in my ‘hood. maybe I should open up a dry cleaning business. “Oh my kitchen table is wobbly, maybe I should learn how to fix it (luckily this is where liberal arts comes in handy. You can use your copy “Atlas Shrugged” to propr up the wonky leg).
Oh no. So what do you do? Get small problems and make them big. Occupy (insert neighborhood) because hell it’s everyone’s goddamn right to earn 45 dollars an hour (plus tips) as a barista and whine that you can make six figures with your MFA in Post Modern Asshattery. Fight for bike lanes. meanwhile, you even see a person of color walking down the street you drop your i-Phone and run while he’s still 80 feet away.
12 year olds mug you and take your BACKBACKS LOADED WITH 15K worth of electronics. What planet are you people from?
And this is why society is circling the drain. We can’t deal with anything.
Yet we’re the ones who are uncivilized, right?
Let me paint a scenario. I’m standing on a street corner watching a parade with my child. Suddenly, a pedophile makes a grab for him do I:
A. Perform an interpretive dance, followed by a poetry reading and a dissertation on ROthko’s use of color or…
B: Gouge his eyes out with my car keys and kick him repeatedly until he coughs up his spleen?
And that’s the difference. You folks are incapable of action in anyway shape or form. You and liberal arts as we know it today has weakened us and the gene pool.
There’s a shitload of evil out there and liberal arts has brain washed hipsters into thinking that that intellect…negotiation understanding is always better than a swift kick to the groin. It’s more CIVILIZED.
Well let me tell you this. Civilization is not the result of enlightenment or evolution. It’s the force of human good over evil. Evil does not yield willingless to the wheels of progress.
Hipsters are worthless. Now this may not mean much in the workplace but it means tons when it comes to co-habitating with millions of people. You are a danger to us. You are rude, immature and self-absorbed. i have yet to see one ski-capped beanpole jihadi scarf wearing posterboy for irony give up a seat on a train for a pregant woman or senior citizen. I’ve witnessed people passing out on the sidewalk only to be helped by normal people while the ski cap irony collective stands by and takes photos for their girtty urban blogs.
Wise up pal. People like us will be dead soon or too old to help you. So wise up now and learn to become a real member of society.
Now go the fuck home. your momma’s calling you. have a Sunny D on me.
There. that felt better. I’m gonna go fart and clean my gun and j*rk off to “Roadhouse”.
Sorry for the long post.
If you guys are going to oppose the whole idea of a liberal arts education, you’re taking on something much bigger and older than hipsters. Every prestigious university in America is 100% invested in the whole ideology of liberal arts edifying the soul and making good citizens, etc. and has been for hundreds of years. Not saying you’re wrong, but this subject is almost its own blog.
Anyway there are some fields, like law or teaching, where a liberal arts degree is basically expected.
I’m definitely not against a liberal arts education, especially if the recipient plans to do something with it. That is, something other than make pipecleaner animals to sell on Etsy. I also don’t have a problem with an English Lit degree for those who actually have a job plan that requires the education. I just get pissed off at the innumerable shit-ticks who assume that their bottom-of-the-class Lit degree makes them a special authority. You know, like the 245 shitheads in every Borders who cried about their student loan debt but who wouldn’t leave because this was as close to working in publishing as they were going to get.
There’s nothing wrong with Liberal Arts.
There’s everything wrong with lemmings putting themselves and their families in debt over $100,000+ for useless degrees that give them no useful skills who then complain that the world treats them unfairly when they can’t get $50,000+ jobs with a Journalism or an MFA degree.
Exactly. If You’re perfeclty happy and content making 30K a year and putting your puppetry degree by doing puppet shows for kids or street fairs- that’s cool. If your degree in fine arts means teaching part time at a local Parochial school and your cool with it. Fine.
As far as teaching or law – fine. But there was some dweeb on Gothamist who had a degree in fine arts, couldn’t find a job and got in to the NYC educational system as a teacher making a good salary. So what does he do? Quits to get his MFA in Puppetry, then joins OWS because he can’t find a job.
I’d love to get a llberal arts degree just for the enrichment. My issue comes when these tools
go for degrees that will not give them adequate employment and expect society to create jobs – high paying jobs – for them.
And to me this is immature and selfish. For years every media outlet has been screaming about the uselessness of degrees like journalism – how the jobs pay nothing and are hard to come by thanks to the concept of perpeptual unpaid internships. And yet Journalism schools are filled to the gunwales with slef-absorbed ninnies who think it won’t happen to them.
Many retirees I know (or once knew) got liberal arts degrees on the GI bill. A few got jobs as teachers or went into law, but most of them – immediately after job hunting for a few months went into other fields – insurance engineering, accounting or the trades. That’s maturity and reality – something hipsters lack.
Yeah, I agree with all this. I’m conflicted. I have a liberal arts degree, and I really enjoyed studying for it. A liberal arts degree will also pretty much prepare you for any non-STEM job, which is still a lot of jobs even in the modern tech economy. I think it prepared me mentally for the job I took after college, in the field I’m still in and plan to stay in, even though it doesn’t directly “use” my degree.
But on the other hand, I think the idea that getting a liberal arts degree is spiritually ennobling and necessary to be a good citizen, which is what universities all push, is elitist bullshit. I bought it when I was 18 but I don’t now. I also think that it’s a shame that a college degree, any college degree, is now required for any middle-class job, even when someone without the education could do the job perfectly well.
“And yet Journalism schools are filled to the gunwales with self-absorbed ninnies who think it won’t happen to them.”
EXACTLY. Oh, and they reach Goatse-level butthurt if anyone tries to dissuade them. Weekend before last, I was talking to an old friend whose son is a journalism major, and the kid asked me for any advice on breaking into the field after his mother told him about my (long-dead) writing career. I told him, very honestly, “get a day job and hang onto it, because you’ll need the health insurance.” The way the kid started whimpering about how I didn’t have to be so negative, you’d have thought I’d shot his dog and then made him eat it.
He was lucky that I didn’t tell him the truth: “The one absolute surefire job skill with a journalism degree is the ability to give a good blow job. If you get a journalism job that pays, you’ll need to know this to keep from being replaced by the next talentfree dickhead willing to work for next than nothing. If you get an intern position, guess what? You’ll at least have a skill that will bring in money over the next nine or ten years you’re waiting to be hired on full-time.” I look at the reporter over at the Houston Chronicle who was fired for being a stripper on her off time. The real reason she was fired was because she actually had spending money, and her co-workers got pissy about it.
I don’t even call journalism degrees an actual degree any more. I call it “a license to starve to death with the blessings of society.” (Actually, I call it “an excuse to sit on LiveJournal all day and whine at anyone who might make fun of my major”, but that’s just me. And each and every last one of them keeps assuming that someone’s going to come up and give them a six-figure weekly newspaper job because of their latest “what my poop looked like this morning” post.)
I really think unpaid internships have fucked over so many fields and turned what could be a job where you could actually make a living (it might not be great, but you wouldn’t starve) into daycare for parentally-supported dipshits. A lot of employers are getting free labor, and that line about it looking good on your resume doesn’t mean a fucking thing when your fridge is empty. If you’re working full-time as an intern, you should at least be making minimum wage. Internships shouldn’t be restricted just to those few who are capable of affording them.
As for liberal arts degrees, I don’t think they’re necessarily lesser. It’s easy to laugh at the dopes outraged because their film theory major doesn’t mean shit off campus, but that also includes social workers, lawyers, psychologists, and a bunch of other occupations. But that degree doesn’t automatically guarantee you a job. It’s like any other field – you want to put that knowledge to work, you need to bust your hump to find that work. THAT is what a lot of the OWS people failed to understand.
Good rant. But it’s not really the liberal art/useless degree thing as a cause, but a symptom.
The dumbing down of school and the dumbing down of parenting in the last 30 years leads these useless people to think getting a useless degree will make some sort of difference.
This article seems a relative. I think the Chinese mother is a bit harsh, but the description and reaction of “Western-parenting” is spot-on in the suburbs, and it’s detrimental. It helps explain how hipsters came to be. And the western-parenting style they describe in this article is spot-on. I’d know because I came from it. I can confidently say it’s not good.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704111504576059713528698754.html
The problem is that the liberal arts aren’t taught in most American universities. You don’t learn how to speak and write properly, analyze ethical issues, or the great people and traditions of Western Civilization. Instead you learn ebonics, moral relativism and nihilism, and politically correct victim stories instead of important historical events.
You hit the nail right on the head! True, college-level courses impart some knowledge and so have some intrinsic value, even the LibArts courses. But what’s missing here is training in the ability to THINK LOGICALLY, which is sorely missing in graduates now. Forget ethics – NO concept of consequences is taught. That’s why older toddlers are happy to spend $100k+ on a Phd in Puppetry, and the Chairman of JPMorganChase doesn’t get why losing TWO BILLION DOLLARS is bad for a business.
Agreed. Schools have eliminated any usefulness inherent in the liberal arts. You know it’s bad when a chucklehead like me with an AAS in a technical field can right and spell far better than the doofus in the other building who spent 4 years taking courses that are writing enhanced.
And I’m not that good at all.
I hear you all too well on the pros who understandably get skittish about the explosions about prices. My wife sees that in the jewelry trade on a constant basis. One of the regular games involves a yup who comes in with a piece of broken jewelry. Sometimes it’s a pendant, sometimes a necklace, and occasionally a ring. The yup goes on and on about how important the piece is, and won’t shut up about the sentimental value: “Oh, I just can’t live without it. It’s been with me nearly my whole life.” Without fail, it’s some piece of crap that they bought in Cozumel or someplace similar for $2, and the fact that it survived more than three weeks was a major miracle. However, proper repairs to make it wearable again will cost anywhere from $10 to $25. That’s when she gets the yup dance. Once she quotes the repair price, they blow up: “But I ONLY paid $2 for it!” The moment she hands it back, they go on and on about the sentimental value, assuming that she’ll hear their sob story and do the work for free. She’s even had shitheads who get pissy when she sticks to the price, throw the piece at her, and scream “Then YOU keep it!” So much for the sentimental attachment.
Now that’s not the best story she’s told me. The best came from a yuppie who couldn’t figure out why his new Rolex wasn’t working. Since her store is Rolex-certified, she cracked open the back to see if this was a battery issue or something else, and discovered that the inside was full of rust and salt water. Better, the movement was Fauxlex: the dork had bought it in Acapulco from some street vendor for $25, who had put a crappy movement into the shell of a Rolex and sold it to a dumb gringo who honestly believed that he could get a real Rolex for 25 bucks. Better yet, since it read “Water Resistant”, he went swimming in the ocean before getting on the plane and coming back. Not only did the SMU brat refuse to accept that this was a fake Rolex, but he kept screaming at her that she HAD to fix it because the store serviced Rolexes. She gave him two choices as she gave it back to him: he could either pay for a legitimate Rolex movement, which would put him back thousands, or he could go back to Acapulco and ask the street vendor for a refund. As he stormed out, he yelled “I’m going to call Rolex about this! They have a WARRANTY!”
When I was a kid, I’d hear stories about three-card monty games and selling the Brooklyn Bridge to yokels, and thought that was horrible. Now, I don’t blame anybody for ripping off people this stupid. The only problem is that they come back home, and try to make everyone else pay for their arrogance.
Douchebaggery abounds.
You got it. In my wife’s case, if she isn’t getting yups like these, she’s getting hipsters who want her to give up all of her wholesale sources for jewelry tools and supplies. Contrary to what they whine, she isn’t withholding that information because she’s jealous of the competition. It’s because every time she has, the little douchewaffle makes a complete ass of him/herself when calling up to put in an order, and when the wholesaler asks “So how the hell did you hear about us?”, the twerp will give my wife’s name as a reference. I’m not just talking about the ones who assume they can just walk in and buy off the shelf from a warehouse, either. I’m talking about the ones who whine about why they can’t get gold at wholesale prices, as if such a thing even existed. (One such dick decided that he’d save all of his friends money on replacing watch band pins, so he came into the store with a watch, got a quote, and then insisted that she just give him the pins so he could do the repair himself. When she said no, he then wanted to get a big bag of pins, “for an art project”, for free. When she called him on it, he then started demanding her wholesaler’s contact information, literally screaming that it was AGAINST the LAW for her to withhold that information. She’s taller than I am, so she had grand fun throwing him out of the store.)
Leroy / TTR – I love your stories. Very entertaining and you remind me of my uncle (which is definitely a good thing).
Thanks, kemo sabe. I told you the one about the hipster clan that walked into her store, with one of them pulling out his gold bridge and trying to cash it in? When she turned him down (dental gold is maybe six carat for the most part, so you need a LOT to make it worth the effort), he started screaming “And you call yourself a jewelry store! You don’t know what you’ve got here!” I guess he had to sell that bridge for coke money somewhere else…
There’s a bigh difference between “water resistant” and “waterproof”. The former implies that the watch can easily endure a quick shower or getting wet in the sink or while washing your car. The latter means a timepiece was designed to withstand water pressure – as in diving watches – totally different. But again were not necessarily talking about water depth, but water pressure. For example my watch is waterproof to a depth 3000 meters, but If I shoot the watch with a pressure washer it might leak. If I were to slowly lower my watch into a body of water to 3000 meters it won’t leak.
I work with machines that can cut 6 inches of steel with a a high pressure stream of water. The depth of the water is only 1/8″ of an inch if that.
That’s what she keeps trying to tell these geniuses, especially with the fake watches. It’s a Folex, and yet they assume that just because it reads “water resistant”, it should be just as good as the real thing. Dumbasses.
Oh, and don’t get me going about true diver’s watches. Out here, we have one shop that will replace batteries or repair diving watches, because it has to be done in a pressure chamber. Most jewelry stores can replace the batteries, but the watch can’t be certified waterproof after that. My wife constantly gets maroons who bought a diving watch to look cool, needed a battery change, and didn’t want to wait the week necessary to get it done. “Look, I really need it for a party tonight, but I SWEAR that I won’t get it wet. Can you change it for me?” Every single time, she refuses, because even if the dork signed a waiver stating that he knew the watch wasn’t waterproof, he’d go diving into the nearest pool and then stomp in the next Monday, furious that his new diving watch was ruined and demanding a replacement for free.
“The problem is, these hipster a$$holes have been permeating our field and bringing down the quality as well as the reputation of the type of work we do, because, put simply, THEY are the ones who suck. They give the rest of us a terrible reputation with potential clients because they have caused horrible design process experiences for clients, and now those same employers are more hesitant to hire legitimate designers or pay the market value for our work than in the past.”
Another problem (depending on the market) is that the clients *themselves* are often mom-&-pop-type businesses or hipster hobbyists (i.e. business owners with no business savvy) and either:
1. Pay for design work because it “looks cool,” not because it will work.
2. Pay their friend/relative to do it because it’s cheaper, not because it will work.
3. Bartering 1 & 2 based on perceived value/savings rather than solid results.
So you get shit work by shit designers for shit clients with shit results.
This also works at the corporate level when dealing with retail:
http://pungeon.blogspot.com/2011/10/organisational-health-corporate.html
(Sorry for link-whoring.)
No apologies needed. If anything, I see this all of the time, too.
Ditto, but in another field. I finally retired.
Another problem is that sometimes you find some that *are* talented, but they have no clue about context. They think that what looks great on their screen will look great anywhere. Case in point: A local place near me just opened up. I really like their logo–it’s one of those pennant-shaped triangles on a dark background, with four “ornaments” hanging from “strings” on the right. Very nicely balanced, very 60′s retro, nice colors and typeface, I honestly like it.
But it makes a crappy sign.
See, the name of the place is “The Cutting Edge,” and they put “edge” on the “ornaments.” (E on one, then D, etc.) It looks great up close, but get more than ten feet away and it looks like the place is just named “Cutting,” or if your eyesight is good, “The Cutting.” I imagine they’ll have the same issue shrinking it to business card sized.
And the design gives you no clue as to what the place does–is it a salon? If so, unisex or not? Is it a scrapbook store? Do they sell fabric? Is it a tailor? Sports store? A bar? What? I still have no fucking clue.
Like I said, I love the design. They just used it in a really bad way. Maybe the owners were warned and they did it anyway, but I would hope that a good designer would point out the problems with using it as a sign.
Ha, Vinnie I know. I thought the same thing. The way these dudes talk you would think they are like union stewards and mechanical engineers. Turns out they’re a bunch of graphic designers who read Brooklyn Vegan. What a bunch of clowns.
Look at ShaneDUNG/Stevie Lame/Trey Parasucko talk to himself.
Kill, Kill, Kill!–over mediocre proffessions!
Gowanus Canal tour guide? Ha Ha Ha thats great. Hipsters are so desperate to be Hip only they can find a canal that would be discusting in 3rd world countries cool…..
At least those stolen manhole covers as of late are being put to good use.
Oh no – I wasn’t that guy. This one I put back after Colby’s head rolled down the street. I’m a responsible citizen.
And for that we thank you, kind sir.
Extra points if his empty head drops into a sewer – hole-in-one!
Maybe you should paint also take to painting coffee shops on brick walls sohipsters will crash into them – like Wile. E. Coyote used to do.
My son that i’ve mentioned in previous posts just sent me a text that he saw a beardo on a 6ft unicycle on the bike path. He took a picture. Too bad he didn’t fall into the manhole before he got all the way here and you put that cap back. : )
Colby’s orange was peeled by the local neighborhood artisanal orange peeler, who charges
$5 per citrus unit. (grapefruits are $7.50)
^ LOL!! That just made me spit out my non-artisanal water as I read it he hee
I hear the guy also does Tangelos for 2.75.
xddd
http://www.myfoxdc.com/video?clipId=7238610&topVideoCatNo=233138&autoStart=true
Yup severely beaten in DC.
Caught on videotape.
Apparently the yup felt he needed to tell a street thug how to behave behind his condo building… Like Yah! Typical Yup behavior.
So guess what happened?
THE STREET THUG BEAT HIS ASS AND STOMPED ON HIM
Typical Yup idiot.
The last person anybody should tell how to behave on the street is a street thug.
100% yup superiority complex.
So lets’s see, a law abiding citizen politely asks a scumbag who’s getting drunk on his doorstep to please clean up after himself, gets beaten near to death… And you celebrate the attacker? Are you retarded? Is this what you consider “keeping it real”? Did it occur to you that the victim is an actual person and not a character in your deranged revenge fantasies?
Vinnie, the dudes who post on here are total frauds. They’re white middle class kids who are graphic designers and read Brooklyn Vegan. They don’t believe half the shit they say. It’s just mindless herd think.
Stop talking to yourself.
OVERDOSED ON ESTROGEN AGAIN – STEVIE???
The park near where I used to live back in the day was used by street thugs to conduct their street business.
Every single day I would walk by there on my way to and from school.
Instead of saying something to them about what they were doing I kept my mouth shut…
Guess what happened to me?
NOTHING HAPPENED TO ME EVER.
MY FACE IS STILL IN TACT.
This is the main difference between a native such as myself with street smarts and a gentrifying yup piece of shit with no street smarts.
Lesson here is.
Keep your yup superiority complexes to yourself.
The street thugs dont want to hear that shit.
So you’re a coward. A safe coward….but a coward.
My city was the murder capital back in those days.
You know damn well you would not have said shit to them either.
But you’re going to celebrate ‘street thugs’ on here? Fuck that. You’re all kinds of backwards,
A street thug can see the error of his ways, clean up his act and become a model citizen. I’ve seen it happen with a lot of dudes who joined the military. I’ve met a lot of senior NCOs and Officers (many of them Marines) who were highly respected among their peers and superiors who were once “street thugs”. They now have families and live quite comfortably. For the most part, a Marine (active duty, separated or retired) regardless of what he did in his youth, will always get respect. Who respects a hipster?
Hipsters, for the most part are incorrigible. More often than not, a hipster will remain a useless piece of shit (unless fed through a woodchipper and used as mulch) throughout its existence, and his uselessness becomes more apparent as he gets older.
A hipster calling someone a coward? Now THAT’S ironic!
Sure Stevie. I can just see you standing up to the big black man when you get attacked. Actually, I’d pay to watch that, hopefully with good sound so I can hear you squeal like the little bitch you are.
I especially liked the tender song of love around 1:40. True ART ART ART ART ART ART ART ART .
How am I celebrating what happened?
The Yup is an idiot.
Had he kept his mouth shut nothing would have happened to him.
Is it even a street thug? Or is it a junkie/wino? Dude hit him from behind like a pussy.
It’s that kind of cowardly attitude that ruins cities – not hipsters, or organic food, or coffee shops. Does the name Kitty Fenovese mean anything to you? I’m glad you don’t live in NYC. We don’t need any chickenshits.
It’s that kind of cowardly attitude that ruins cities – not hipsters, or organic food, or coffee shops. Does the name Kitty Genovese mean anything to you? I’m glad you don’t live in NYC. We don’t need any chickenshits.
Totally agree. A nice neighborhood requires the neighbors standing up to this kind of bullshit. I remember DC when Pat Ewing was at Georgetown. It was a filthy, violent shit hole. And this coward comes on here gloating about a dude with some balls who got attacked while his back was turned.
You better stop talking to yourself before the guys in the white coats haul your worthless ass away.
Hipsters have no concept of “cause and effect” due to their upbringing (helicopter parents) and serious lack of common sense. They move into shady areas and somehow think that the rules apply to everyone except them.
They’re the types who will mouth off to a cop and actually be surprised if the cop beats their ass. I normally abhor police brutality, but if I were back in the DC area visiting family and friends and saw a cop (especially a PG county cop) stomping out some hipster fuck, I’d buy that cop a box of donuts.
Vinnie and Shanedawg on here defending gentrifiers and yups.
SAD.
They’re most likely the same loser doing the “Stevie Lame” thing (sockpuppets).
Let’s see. Multiple handles but with the same syntax. Repeating the same “inflammatory” comments over and over in the hopes of getting a response. Answering one sock-puppet’s questions with another sock-puppet. Getting incredibly butthurt in particular over comments about fortysomething hipsters and the stupidity of working as an unpaid intern. Yep, it’s Stevie, all right.
Also note that the two sockpuppets post within a few minutes of each other.
And no response when he’s outed. It’s definitely Stevie. I guess his boss told Stevie to put up the iPhone and get back to polishing his balls.
Um, Vinnie posted two slightly different messages at 7:47. Go figure. MPD?
The rules of the streets apply to everyone including inflated rent paying gentrifying pieces of shit.
Any they are universal, and apply everywhere there are ‘mean streets”. Amen!
I really don’t get the stretch earlobe bit. Does anyone rational find that attractive in the least? It reminds me of some tribal shit that aboriginal peoples do in some back ass ritual, not far off in my eyes from female genital mutilation. Does anyone know why the fuck someone would do this crazy ass shit?
I’ve been asking myself that shit for a minute. I saw it back in the late 90s with “body modification” and “neo-primitive” enthusiasts who usually belonged subsets of the “industrial music” thing (at least the ones I’ve met), S&M scene or gay scene.
Back then only real “freaks” were doing that shit. Soon, it began to cross subcultural lines. I even saw Nazi/White Power skinheads who used to beat up “body mod” enthusiasts and other “freaks” for simply existing, starting to stretch out their lobes (now THAT is ironic — white supremacists who engage in body modification practiced by non-White hunter-gatherer groups. Adolf is spinning in his grave).
As usual, hipsters were the last to jump on the bandwagon. I understand tattoos and and even piercings (not my cup o’ joe), but the earlobe stretching escapes me.
Lol, reminds me of a story about a white dude who got tribal tats and then tried to go “commune” with the “natives.” (I think they were Maoris in NZ.)
They promptly beat him to a pulp.
Oh, FUCK. I’m surprised that they left anything to be identified. We’re talking about guys who can beat the shit out of Samoans, and that’s saying something. I can see the police report: “The body’s condition…Ian, how do you spell ‘aerosol’?”
Awesome.
I live Honolulu and work at one of the local museum that focuses on Polynesia and it’s history (similar to American Museum of Natural History). After living here for ten years and working the museum for six, I would have say that anyone who get a tribal tattoo or thinks they could integrate with a pacific rim culture is out of there mind. All the tattoos mean specific things and you look a fool if there not done correctly. I don’t think people release that face tattoos on Maori are chiseled into flesh by pounding a bone tool with a mallet. The pain must be excruciating and if you survived it was right of passage into adulthood. So important are these marking that after someone died the head are mummified.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LmELBt2jjko/TcoBeU6lfUI/AAAAAAAAE0Y/D3p4_sDle7c/s1600/Robley_and_mokomokai_2.jpg
Locals in any of these cultures do not look kindly on outside infringing or trying identifying with something that white’s tried to get rid of when all these places where colonized two the three hundred years ago. If you want learn about these cultures read books ahead of time, ask questions, let them tell you about. If you step carefully and be very respectful they will open up and show you hospitality and generosity that is second to none. The most important thing to remember is you are a guest in their land and you never be a local. Even you marry in and have kids, your kids will be local but you’re still an outsider.
Speaking of Maori, watching Haka (or war dance) live is mind blower.
One more note on Tattoos, tens years ago it was trendy to get Katakana, Kanji characters to show your spiritual or enlightened. Ask anyone from Japanese what they mean and they just laugh and “says nothing, doesn’t mean sense, or worst it means something bad.” Plus if there visible (any tattoos for that matter) and you go to Japan you could be refused served at a restaurant or to stay at hotel because in their eyes only the Yakuza are tattooed.
That vid is impressive. I definitely would not want to get into it with those dudes.
I have a cousin who lives on North Island in New Zealand, and a lot of my family emigrated there at the turn of the last century. (Half went to Aotearoa, and the other half, my half, went to Canada, but that’s another story.) Because of that, I spent a lot of time studying both European and Maori history on the islands, so I have a tiny smattering of knowledge about Maori warfare and traditions. With that said, the Maori earned their reputation as some of the best warriors this planet has ever produced this side of the Comanche. During the main English colonization, the Crown sent its best soldiers, armed with what were the best weapons available anywhere, to subjugate the Maori. England finally gave up, and not just because Maori tactics were superior. England finally gave up because there was just no way they would ever win.
That’s why I laugh myself sick whenever I listen to some drooling idiot going on and on about “tribal” tattoos based on Maori designs. Said idiot doesn’t know a damn thing about the traditions upon which these were based, and figures that a quick Google search would suffice. He’s the sort who’d giggle and preen over being called “pakeha” by people who know better, and that’s until they got tired of the idiot and turned him into a paste.
Damn. The fact that the Brits called it quits says a lot about the Maoris. I read a bit about the Maoris a looooooong time ago. I was impressed to say the least.
I saw video about some of the Maori gangs (Mongrel Mob & Black Power). Frightening dudes to say the least. They looked like Maori warriors dressed as outlaw bikers. Definite badasses.
As a historical guide to the European colonization of New Zealand put it, the colonization of New Zealand was completely different from that of Australia. Australia had brush fires, droughts, bugs, and some of the most venomous snakes and spiders known to man. The country also had friendly natives. New Zealand was given up by the Dutch (the name is a corruption of “Neu Zieland”), and it had exemplary weather, a minimum of pest insects, and no snakes whatsoever. However, the poor dumb British and Scot colonists who showed up did so at a point of particularly intense intertribal warfare, with a people who gleefully extorted firearms from terrified visitors. (From what I understand, protection rackets were particularly popular at that time, where a particular tribe would adopt “our pakeha” and tell them that it’d be a real shame if they couldn’t get the tribe more rifles before an opposing tribe raided, set their house afire, and cut off their heads after raping them repeatedly.) Suffice to say, most colonists chose Australia.
You know, maybe that’s what everyone in Brooklyn needs to do as well. If the dumb transplants keep coming, you might as well both get money from them and keep them in a state of constant pants-shitting terror. “You know, it’d be a real shame if the lock on your loft studio were to fall off and your yup neighbors stole everything that wasn’t nailed down. You don’t want that to happen, now do you? And if you go to the cops about it, well, they might get here in time to find you chopped up and dumped in a refrigerator. I’m just looking out for you.”
I didn’t release the Maori had a term for that. Doesn’t surprise me as in Hawai’i, the term for white is “Ha’ole” pronounced like Holly. The meaning is disputed but I heard/read it means foreigner, dead or no breath (opposite of Aloha, when Hawai’ian greet you breath in your breath and say Aloha, the explorers didn’t do this and natives thought they where dead).
Like NYC problem local vs. non-local in the state is pretty bad. Most of the islands loaded with trustafarians (not so many hipsters but pretty similar if you ask me) and they cause all kind of problems. They take the best beach communities and drive up the market valve, convert the old style plantation style villages to their needs. Which are now loaded with useless yoga studios, weed and seeds food markets, hippie clothing stores, over priced coffee and juice bars. This true for Kailua, Haleiwa on Oahu, Paia on Maui, and both Kailua-kona and Hilo on the big island. The island of Kauai has more of them then bad bed bug infestation.
They all come here to be one with nature, sit in the mud and start a cucumber co-opt, all on their parents dime and preach sustainability to the locals. Keep in mind the locals have grown taro (traditional root used as staple food) for generations without any problems.
Surfers from Cali are just as bad if not worse. They’re all blond, walk around with that stupid blank look faces and assume their entitled to whatever they want. On the North Shore of Oahu (think pipeline, or Waimea bay) they just think they can take any wave they want whenever they want. Many of them learn the hard way that the locals have very defined pecking order and Da Hui (or Black Shorts) enforce unwritten rules without mercy. This applies for top pros as well.
Glad to help. All throughout Aotearoa, pakeha is the general term for anyone of European ancestry used by locals, and a term of disparagement for visitors. There’s still a lot of argument as to where it came from (one of the more intriguing theories is that “pakeha” is a corruption for “little traveler”, a typically Maori snide comment on the cat fleas that whalers and traders brought with them. (Having talked to a few Maori, I’ll say that I’ve never met anybody with such a wonderfully bent sense of humor before, and that’s even including a Brooklyn buddy in the Army. You just want to make sure you understand exactly when they’re laughing with you and when they’re laughing at you. As you pointed out, pecking order is important.)
A transplanted useless neo-hippy on Maui multiplied by the hundreds. A friend had a run in with this kind of riff raff and was none the better for it because the scumbag was a pathological liar and eternal ‘borrower’/bum.
Said dingbat, when asked what the population of Maui is like actually stated, straight faced and not a tad of irony, that,”…most of the people who move to Maui from the mainland are total flakes.”
The idea that it ‘takes a flake to know a flake’ was utterly lost on him. Dude is probably still out there using anyone who will listen to his half-witted, Maker Faire, wannabe steam punk, wannabe engineer, physorg parroting ‘knowledge’ who will listen. If someone’s like that still by the time they’re 50, they’re beyond salvation and the ‘you reap what you sow’ speeches fall on deaf ears. No wonder the native folks hate mainland wankers. The mainlanders will whine and cry about how discriminated against they are and how mean the Hawaiians are to them. Much the same the hipsters in the cities now do when the born there locals don’t welcome them with open arms and parties. Everything they say about it sounds like,”Wahhhhh…”
Love the Haka dance. Doesn’t the Univ. of Hawaii football team have their own version?
Yeah they do, but I’ve never seen it. Football really not my thing. I should go at some point just see the tailgating parties which I hear are pretty epic.
Maybe genital mutilation will be the next meghan craze?
Better still, film theory majoring baristas wearing fedoras and sleeve tatoos will ironically revive snuff films in a hipster subgenre, both male and female. They will be shown at Williamsburgh rooftop screenings exclusively all summer long.
Tickets available on your iphone.
Indeed. It’s amazing the depth of banality that some people will reveal in themselves and rationalize their grotesque and/or contrived b.s. by simpy attaching the word ‘Art’ to it.
Only semi-realted to the them of this website but I love the way the story starts:
“Candice is a 31-year-old New Yorker. She met a nice lawyer at a bar in Williamsburg, and agreed to see The Avengers with him. When she arrived for the date, he was wearing a fedora.”
http://gawker.com/5910252/passive+aggressive-break+up-text-messages-from-a-fedora+wearing-lawyer
ahhhhhhhh hahaha…that was funny,that is def gonna end in an order of protection against his fedora wearing ass.
http://gawker.com/penis-size/
Here’s a subject that should interest a lot of hipster guys find their sweet cankelsaurus maximuses.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/12/nyregion/with-typewriter-in-tow-cyclist-maya-stein-nurtures-creativity.html
Brace yourselves for a nauseating title: “With a Typewriter in Tow, a Cyclist Fosters Creativity” (courtesy of the New York Times)
Is it just me or does the “type rider” look like a dude?
Honest to God, I can’t tell.
I recall in the 90′s there was a definite trend of bisexual experimentation going on, on the part of both males and females. There was some extra social credibility in saying one had done such a thing. (gak)
Now it’s adrogony as the ‘edgy’ sexual misadventure that people are adopting. Because, you knowwww…gender is like..yahhh…not fixed, ‘k?
K. But, you’re still a fucknit either way MegCalebdrogyonous. An inability to identify your own gender speaks volumes to your total lack of self-awareness except as it applies to the level of positive reception you get in being a quirky little soul.
It’s not just the article’s title that’s nauseating, it’s the entire article. “Kickstarter”…”the terror of a blank page”…blah blah blah…now I want to retch. And that type rider looks like a Twizzler limbed dude.
Typewriters and juggling…what’s not to like? (snark)
Throw a dwarf and an clown intot he photo and you have the cover of The Doors “Strange Days”.
That album cover was shot in an alley in Murray Hill. Love that cover.
Please, stop nurturing us! Please please please. Let us live our boring lives in peace.
“…and a hand-crafted bottle of artisanal water…”
that came out of the tap and cost $14.00
Fucking hipsters go fuck yourselves.
Some cool old Brooklyn pics. Not a hipster in sight
http://www.retronaut.co/2011/06/brooklyn-summer-1974/
Refreshing – thank you.
Great link. Did you read the reply from “Heather” ? She is a “Brooklyner” and she loves her some hipsters. “Yo….bro” Excuse me while i have an aneurism.
Awesome,check out the subway pics with the Guardian Angels
Locally peeled orange!!!! Love it. I live in San Francisco, I bet I could get one of those here.
A day without a hipster beating is like a day without sunshine.
Here comes the sun.
I thought I’d seen it all BUT THIS….IS INEXCUSABLE: CAT HIPSTERS
http://www.aspcaonlinestore.com/products/121252-dj-cat-scratching-pad
Unbelievable! No self-respecting cat would be caught dead anywhere near that thing.
At some point this crap has to start counting as animal abuse.
They’re the same retarded mentality that stoners use for blowing pot smoke in their poor pets face. That animal has NO choice about the b.s. you are fostering onto them you control freaky hipsters. Pets as fashion accessories and with the perceptions of humans. Yeah. That’s a real step forward in ‘enlightenment’ you freaking nimrods.