I came across this funny link:
Link: 9GAG.com – Hipsters, explain the deep meaning…
Occasionally, I have to pass through the Chelsea “art district”. As I pass by these “galleries” I peek in sometimes just to laugh in amazement as to how this circle jerk of so-called artists, collectors, and gazers exists. 90% of this shit is simply shit. I can imagine seeing what’s going on in the Bushwick and Williamsburg galleries (which you wouldn’t catch me dead in). The artist simply has no skills and has to rely on childish techniques like shapes and big empty canvases and swirls of color that even a blind man can create. The collectors simply have unlimited time and money to blow on this pretentious garbage. The gazers are walking around trying to be cool and pretend they understand the deep meaning of it all. It’s a joke. Modern art for the most part is amateurish at best. Post-Modern art??? WTF is that, really?
Anyway, be sure to read through the comments of that webpage. Every few lines some art school Ethan or Caleb tries to justify the meaning of the red wall and immediately gets attacked by hipster haters and people who clearly agree with what I’m saying.
Hipsters are at it again but those time in astoria queens.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAoHHq8YWPs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Quirky, beards, wool hats, look at MEEEEE, inconveniencing others…hipster much?
The bedbug car. No thanks.
Where’s a transit cop when you need one? I can sleep fine on the subway sitting upright, thank you very much. There’s no way in hell I’m going to put my head on the same pillow as a bunch of strangers, much less wear an eyemask that someone else had just worn Pinkeye, anyone? And this idiocy is funded by the Guggenheim??? Once again, giving art – and improvisation – a bad name.
Right. Where are the transit cops. I rode the subway in Atlanta for years and there is no way on earth any of this nonsense would happen. No musicians, no improv, no food or drink. No nothing – shut up and ride the f’ing train.
The infuriating part about Improv Everywhere is that they really do have some pretty clever ideas. But in every single one their videos they spend literally half the time showing people’s reactions, as if to say, “Yes, we are funny, people love us, see? Look how funny we are! People are laughing! See? SEE???” Suddenly it’s not about the joke anymore but about the response they’re getting.
Irreverent humor (and humor in general) only really works if you play it straight and don’t run around afterwords pointing out to everyone that by your actions you’re somehow bringing light and goodness into the world. Such a waste — properly framed, I would find their stuff really entertaining.
This is exactly the same behavior I observe in my 10 year old niece. But that’s to be expected from a little girl. Most people grow out of it, but this generation has been doted on so much and for so long they’ll never grow up. They think this is how adults behave, that this is normal.
And unlike previous generations, they never had the benefit of getting the cute slapped out of them in basic training.The late, great George Carlin breaks it down perfectly: Child worship. This is truly a sickness in our culture. The master explains: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6wOt2iXdc4
Wow! Brilliant. I’ve been saying the same thing about “child worship” for a number of years. BTW, until recently, it’s been mainly a white-American phenomenon. Ever notice how when a kid is acting up on a plane, it’s NEVER the Asian kid? It’s always the white kid!!!
F’ing A! There should be an FAA reg that says no F’ing spoiled ass white children under the age of crying-age on a plane. No crying-ass kids on a plane. No F’ing snakes on a plane either! How simple is this?
Don’t forget about this:
http://thelawlers.com/Blognosticator/?p=179
And, if you happened to notice the name of the “artist”, you’d know exactly how he conceived that idea.
Oh, what a surname! How unfortunate >:D
Wonder if he’s any relation to Anthony, that innovative photographer of male genitalia?
Shhhhh everybody be very quiet. Its a wild hipster, and its currently in the process of feeding on his all natural, animal cruelty free veggie burgers. Its a time where they are most irritable.
The hipsters were quick to go on the defensive. As expected. Lauding the red painting with academic terminologies. Oh, poor us, who didn’t have art theory classes… we become the ignorant. Tsk. These hipsters totally missed the whole point: how one feels about art tells us more about ourselves than the artwork. Red Painting or not.
I’m an artist but having no knowledge about abstract painting, I see the red painting as it is… a mere piece of red canvas. Nothing deep there. Haha. I certainly wouldn’t spend a fortune on it…
Also, I agree with one of the comments from that page. The red painting does look like the red screen of death after a virus attack on an old computer.
I love that someone linked this in the comments:
http://www.odditycentral.com/pics/art-critics-go-bananas-over-paintings-made-by-monkey.html
Quick! Someone get me a monkey! Or a 3 year old! Oh wait, my nephew is 3, let me ask him to make some art I can sell….
Hahaha that’s great. Fucking idiots!
Back when the Britcom “Absolutely Fabulous” first came out in the States, you had a lot of avant poseurs masturbating like caged apes over the series, with the exception of one episode. That one featured our main character, Edie Monsoon, going into a panic that she wasn’t leaving enough for her daughter to remember her by, so Edie decided to go art shopping. She walked into an art gallery and just started fussing about the value of everything that she saw, and the gallery owner just looked at her and said “Oh, you’re an investor.” He then led her to a back room full of the absolute worst crap you can imagine, which she bought up solely because she was promised that it would increase in value.
Anyway, that one episode is absolute kryptonite for hipster artistes. They have the exact same whine that Cat Piss Men have over William Shatner’s “Get A Life!” speech: “I don’t think that’s funny AT ALL.”
You gotta love the interwebs. A couple of days ago I clicked on a link on DieHipster that someone had posted for a baseball bat called a “Cold Steel Brooklyn Smasher”. So when I went to the link at 9Gag, the ads on that page with the red “art” are for, wait for it…. a Cold Steel Brooklyn Smasher selling at Amazon.com for the low, low everyday price of $30.72.
The only art I see in that red POS is someone’s trust fund circling the drain. It’s no deeper than that. All their arguing about the deep nuances and meanings, that you don’t get it because you didn’t piss away enough of Daddy’s money on Art Theory classes, will never convince me otherwise.
I’ve been seeing lots of fat Megans, man-buns, thick eyeglasses, Utilikilts and hearing the nasally voices outside of those galleries in Chelsea. I haven’t been in any of them, but the sculptures and paintings I can see from the street look ugly as hell.
I go to those galleries at Chelsea for the free wine
Me and my wife used to do that when we were first married. Actually went to the big Auction houses. Dress up and bit and get lots of free wine. One day we aimed high and got into the Sotheby’s for the Tom Benson divorce auction. Mr Benson is the owner of the New Orleans Saints and WAS eh largest private owner of Tiffany glass and art. He had to get rid of one of his passions and he didn’t want the wife to get the Tiffany glass so he sold it all. We were playing with the lamps, picking up the vases eating and drink well. We didn’t have $5 bucks between us but I had a nice suit and got a good haircut.Good times
Also did that a fair bit on the east side, when a co-worker got her stuff bandied about in various galleries. Half the joy is making fun of the people who show up and buy the schlock for more money than I’ve seen in one place.
I was a kid, just 23 years old, right out of the Army, and met a hot socialite in the art scene in the ATL 30 years ago. I was so f’ing hungry that I would have eaten a bar of soap if it smelled like food. She dragged me around to all the gallery openings and I gorged my ass on cheese and wine and fruit, Ah, good times; what I would now give to have a hot-ass woman drag me around and feed me cheese and wine and give me nookie. C’est la vie…
http://www.englishkillsartgallery.com/
Look under the “artists” category.
My (very) limited experience with these jerkweeds is that all they do is use the lingo learned in art school and from pouring over art reviews. The trick is in re-arranging the terms in such a way that the other lemmings just nod in agreement-because they’re so insecure. The puppetmasters of these honking twizzlers are the critics. They write the gospel and the other preach it and use it to sell krep to folks who don’t want to appear unsophisticated. Essentially they are nothing more than used car salesman and selling a glass full of melting ice cubes” as “a comment on the post modern policies of conservatives toward global warming” is no different than shilling Scotchguard as “a space age polymer protectorant”.
I dated an artist working in NYC. We had a lot of fun and got along well. Things started getting serious. One night we met some of her pretentious art friend at a gallery. Of course I was asked my opinion of the displayed art work. The long/short is – every date after that night comprised of thinly veiled lectures at pretentious SoHo art galleries. She was hellbent on being my professor Higgins and taming this unsophisticated rube. After several weeks we had another date with her “friends. Oh and they had a lot of fun at my expense. They carried on speaking about the meaning of a particularly awful piece of art described in the brochure as “a playful montage of random shapes and colors”.
They all turned to me when the critic/leader of the group – who could not stand me – asked my opinion ..waiting for me to make an absolute fool out of myself. So I gave him an honest answer: “How can you give a definitive assessment of something that’s random? Looking at this piece is like staring at the clouds, I might see an elephant while you see a cat. Some people might see them for what they are – clouds. It’s like Freud said – “sometimes a cigar is just a cigar”. Why isn’t it enough to say, “I love it or hate it?”
Next day, my girlfriend says we are not compatible and ends our relationship.
On a similar note, here’s a clip of Robert Wuhl from an old HBO comedy show. He talks about a painting he bought …4:52 to 13:02.
Art majors are the most pretentious and useless people on the planet. True art doesn’t require a degree to create, and it certainly shouldn’t require the use of trendy pseudo-academic buzzwords to explain why it qualifies as art. Art majors should be forced into electrical engineering or computer science or biology… anything that would allow them to actually provide value to the world. Artists possessed of actual talent will continue to create without meaningless degrees and the approval of the old money “art critic” snobs.
Let me qualify that I exclude architects, graphic designers, and other actual working artists from my ire.
Assuming the graphic designer is actually making money.
No, an architect requires a considerable amount of math, science and engineering. Not real hipster stuff
Swamp Yankee,
There’s some truth there, but architecture is really full of a lot of the same type of pretentious, narcissistic, bullshit and self-worship that the art community is tainted with. Of course, there are a lot of architects and artists who do legitimate work and grind away in obscurity performing their job and earning a living without the cavalcade of “Look at Me” horseshit, but the annoying truth is that, just as in art, there’s a loony culture of hipster “lofty” concepts that is just as f’ed up and full of crap as the red rectangle above. Architecture, for the most part has become a hipster haven, from my experience. The most annoying aspect is that a lot of my contemporaries have an extra smugness about them because they are “Architects” and not just artists. The truth is that most of them (the younger generation), just like these fine art hacks, couldn’t draw a striaght line or design anything to save their self-absorbed lives and have learned to peddle bullshit.
As a sort of tangent, I started a long time ago in fine arts school, which I’m almost embarrased to admit. I wanted to paint realistic portraiture and illustrations. I’ll never forget when, toward the end of my second year, one of my instructors told me, “You’ll never make it in the art world. You don’t have enough bullshit in you.” Turns out that was some of the best advice I ever got. I got out of the program, worked as an illustrator for a few years, then returned to school for architecture, thinking it would distance me even further from the type of pretentious thinking I’d been exposed to earlier. Turns out that was not the case. It was the same crowd, same type of hipster thinking, just under a different name.
One thing I definitely realized was that the key to getting through art school and architecture school critiques(at least the design studio portion) was OBFUSCATION, in the most literal sense. Someone asks for an explanation of your project and you throw in every bit of jargon, every “ism”, every metaphor you can think of, put them on a roller coaster of pure bullshit and make them ride it for so long that by the time you’re finished they don’t want to admit they didn’t understand what the hell you were talking about for fifteen minutes. I saw it all the time and can count on one hand the number of times a critic was lucid enough or had balls enough to call flat-out BS on someone. It’s all salesmanship, and unfortunatley, there’s a huge demand for anything that comes shrink-wrapped in pretense.
I got off on a bit of a tirade here but just wanted to throw two or three cents into the mix since I feel like I’ve witnessed a lot of the hipster art world bullshit from within. Not everyone in art and architecture are hipsters, I can attest, but there are so many it’s a painful journey. To conclude, I guess I just want to ensure architecture gets the whipping it deserves. And to state again that I hate everything to do with hipsters. You could argue that the real art behind the red rectangle was the mastery of pure bullshit that got it into a gallery, but that thought just pisses me off.
Bravo!!! Fucking BRAVO!!!!!!
“Actual working artists” << ditto!
I still do not understand why most folks in the "graphic designer" industry have the need to dress up looking like mad, unwashed christmas trees. They blow off salaries to rave parties and E, go home to their overpriced apartments paid by parents…
…open the fridge to find nothing!
Rothko is rolling in his grave.
Now here’s a semi touchie subject…well not really, but one that is a thin red line and one where I get VEXED stupid fast……not at my fellow DH folks, but at the shitheads that make art seem lame.
First and foremost….art is NOT lame…..anyone thats been to Paris or Madrid can attest to that. Seeing Goya, Michael Angelo, Rembrandt, Picasso, etc…in person is fucking epic and powerful even if you can’t draw a stick figure. It’s true skills and passion and most of all a DISCIPLINE. Those dudes went all out to be excellent at their craft. Not hangout in hip bars and have sack races wearing Underoos. We all know that 97% of all hipsters and art fags do minimalist, pseudo weird, horseshit and try to explain it. I’ve seen it and heard it enough for this lifetime. FUCKOUTTAHERE.
Trust its one of the plagues I’ve had to endure my whole life and its getting worse. Chelsea fosters much smugness, arrogance and self appointed critics. Occasionally, quality art passes through. Try talking to a gallery owner or one of the sniveling helpers. All jerkoffs. Big money is involved too, which makes it all the more nuts and scandalous. I digress…the trash art and dildos explaining it can all go get fucked.
I went to art school and studied graphic design and illustration. Both of which I do for a living. I’ve dealt with art fags, hipsters and smuggers for too long. I’ve toyed with the idea of “black maskin” it once or twice and throwing some dudes beatings, but I chose to ignore these suckers and go for mine. Having grown up in the 80′s when men actually had testicles and smug nerds got hung upside down in school, it was hard to roll with the new NYC (of all places) being full of limp wristed sissy men. Of course they had to embrace art and make it seem wack and irritating. Half stepping fake suckers have NO SHELF LIFE. Their creative output is garbage. The same way these hipster rock bands look and sound like a dry cat turd compared to bands like Led Zeppelin or even The Clash.
YOU CAN’T BUY INTEGRITY. Oh yeah…..and your weak art sucks.
~ ST. SAVAGE
art hetero
Well, they don’t wanna be artists. They wanna be KNOWN as artists. They’re not striving to make some remark on the human condition, or even be understood. They want to be MISunderstood.
They see the mystique that surrounds a good artist and miss how it came into being. So they copy his lifestyle but not his experience. They copy his medium but not his message. They even copy his fans but not their enthusiasm. They see just how hollow they are inside and misinterpret THAT to be artistic.
They are to be pitied.
Very well said. I’m pleased there’s other humans that understand this.
No, they aren’t to be pitied. They are to be mocked, mercilessly, without end. They’re no different from the jackasses who want to be writers but who can’t commit to writing, so they hang out at bookstores, brag about impending publication or book tours that aren’t ever going to happen, and otherwise make actual writers look even worse.
Nice post, angryeel. I went through it, too. Art school is so full of douche’s it makes you want to have nothing to do with it. Just have to keep the “good fight” going and make these idiot hipsters feel hate and mockery at every opportunity.
LOL! The hipsters are taking a beating the comments section of the 9GAG link.
If only the baseball bats were literal and not just metaphorical.
Amen!
God, just looking at the hipster twat “Chris Corrado” (of Cal U, natch) at the top of the comments page makes me want to reach for my chainsaw:
“Whoever made this post is a fucking moron. These pieces have such different purposes they should not be compared. The second one has emphasis on colour and line, while the first one has emphasis on form and space. Learn the basics of design before thinking you can be a critic of design.”
YEAH!!! ‘Cos you can’t critique ANYTHING I believe until you have been validated by people with the same opinion as moi……..
Ummmm…..Before we debate the sheer pomposity and adolescent pretension of these remarks, let us briefly consider the rad hipster chic of those frames and his future career as a barista in Brooklyn.
Arguing from authority. Always the die-hard, fail-safe of liberal arts. Democracy is for wimps. Only the TRUE Artiste knows the value of autocracy and the opinion of faculty with even hipper frames than thou…
fuck post modernism, the term has no meaning. I mean if I went by the definition of the words, I guess it would mean “futurist” or some shit, but no it just means nonsense. unless they actually think they are going to invent some future trend, which is arrogant beyond belief.
fucking shit
That piece is HORRIBLE! HORRIBLE! HORRIBLE!
Honestly, I’m pretty well versed in art. Despite what people around me may think upon looking at my initial appearance, I know my shit when it comes to art. I was taught about all the greats (Warhol, Picasso, Van Gogh, Gauguin, Renoir, etc.) in grade school, and I’ve been drawing and making art and even dabbled in graffiti (I wasn’t “Up” or had fame or anything like that, but I had met my fair share of crews in time since then) from a young age.
No matter how many exceptinally esoteric and oblique terms one may try to throw to describe or explain this piece, at the end of the day, it’s just a white and a black line on a canvas painted red!
Where’s the skill? Where’s the talent? Where’s the passion? There is none at all!
I remember when I was 17 and I was on a high school class trip to Portugal and Spain. In spain, we saw both the Dali museum and the Picasso museum. Seeing those works in real life was nothing short of amazing, especially considering the effort put into some of their larger works!
There is SOOOOOO much canvas there and yet nothing is done with it…NOTHING!
This is what I consider to be great art….
http://www.diegogravinese.com/site/wp-content/gallery/extras/home.jpg
http://www.diegogravinese.com/site2/wp-content/gallery/2011/principiantes-beginners-2.jpg
Keep in mind, those are oil paintings!
It’s obvious the artist in question that created that bland and utterly useless debacle of an art piece doesn’t even have a fifth of the talent that the painter who painted those (Diego Gravinese) has. That is dedication to a craft!
But then again, working on pieces that grand takes away time from other things…like gallavanting around soho at coke parties, rooftop gardening, being seen at low end fashion parties, and generally doing everything that’s associated with being an artist…except making art!
another thing, why must people (mainly hipsters or hipster sympathizers) get so mad when someone states the obvious or has an opinion that counteracts with their own? That’s all I thought of when I read this comment….
“If you don’t understand the concept of art, don’t fucking judge art.
Now get the fuck off the internet you useless piece of human flesh.”
SMH…So, because people see what they see (not being selective at all) and have based their opinions on what they have saw, and those opinions *sob sob* hurt their feelings, those people are “useless pieces of human flesh”?
If there’s anything I’ve learned from making/doing art (not being…there’s a difference between being and DOING. One implies action) whether it should be music or actual drawing/painting, it’s that any criticism can only help. Mainly as in if it’s positive, then it can only help support the artist’s goals…if it’s negative, then that can only help the artist to grow and better what they are doing in their craft.
It’s obvious this generation (sadly, my generation) just can’t handle criticism of any kind and even have to resort to call people “haters” or “uneducated” or just flat out insult them as if they are lacking any semblance of culture.
And therein lies the problem and why I feel artists are looked down on now. It’s basically because the crop of producers that make this “art” have been nurtured in an enviroment where even the smallest criticism is struck down upon and the nurturers of these artists (friends, family, and peers) all are afraid of expressing their real opinions on the matter. Instead, they sugar coat everything. The toddler who takes their food and smears it upon the walls of their parent’s home is celebrated as a future artist! Instead of being scolded and punished. Parents tell their kids “you’ll always be number one” when they get dropped from their respective high school/grade school sports teams…instead of telling them that they need to work harder at what they want to do.
I also blame alot of these art education classes at these overpriced liberal arts colleges for making this crop of artists seem bulletproof when they just put twigs on a canvas and call it art….cause with all of those terms they learn…it can make the simplest thing look like a complicated math equation, when really it’s nowhere near that.
Hipster art is only made for hipsters. It is meant for sharing between their group of peers. Their art is constrictive. The same thing goes with their music; indie, or whatever it is named now. The aim for indie bands is to be unsuccessful, irritating, and it is meant for their peer group only. Hipsters fail miserably at art and music, and they blast well-known and successful (aka mainstream) artists, authors, and musicians, because mainstreamers managed to draw a large crowd of people. Artists who draw large crowds make all the money. “Mainstream” artists and musicians want people from every color, every country, every age and style, to connect with their song, or their book, their art, etc. In fact, that is what a musician or artist’s primary goal of achievement has always been; to be seen by the world over, to have their work stand the test of time, to be immortal, to live on and be experienced for others past their own frame of life. Hipsters in the other hand, aim to fail and to be “underground” because they got no guts to put it out there for everyone. They would rather be smug. Hipsters are scared to test their work against the world, so they hide behind their peer group, and there is not a leader of their pack. Hipsters do not have it in them to make great art, and it is because the message hipsters express is painfully narrow. Most importantly, hipster artists are obnoxious, they annoy and make uncomfortable, the majority of their potential audience.
I’m reminded of a crack about how Kurt Cobain first started shooting up because he was having various stomach issues. “The great blues musicians got into heroin because their souls hurt. Kurt got into heroin because his stomach hurt.”
The DieHipster trap is on Flavorpill this week:
http://flavorwire.com/269261/what-comes-after-the-hipster-we-ask-the-experts?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Day%204%20%28Thursday%29&utm_campaign=Unified%20Mailer#4
The Flavorpill “experts” seem to be having a hard time pinning down the meaning of Hipster. They’re so puzzled by it. They’ve written books trying to explain it. All they have to do is read the FAQ section of this site. It’s really not that difficult, folks!
Holy cripe! What a bunch of eggheads! When you see a hipster, you will say, “hey, that’s a hipster.” Mr. sociologist, you are way overthinking this. If you see a Ford, you know it’s a Ford. When you see a hipster, you know it’s a hipster. Really, we need scientific analysis, here?
Those people are idiots. Typical hipsters speaking on shit they know nothing about.
Holy cripe! What a bunch of eggheads! When you see a hipster, you will say, “hey, that’s a hipster.” Mr. sociologist, you are way overthinking this. If you see a Ford, you know it’s a Ford. When you see a hipster, you know it’s a hipster. Really, we need scientific analysis, here?
I recognize the painting. It’s in the Museum of Modern Art and it’s from the earlier part of the 20th century. The painter was one of the original modernists- whatever you want to say about him, paintings like that were actually new at the time, and he was no hipster. Hipsters hadn’t even been invented yet. Hipsters try to mimic history; that painting *is* history. Hate the re-enacters, not what they re-enact.